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A brief discussion of current Firearms related issues!
  • 24 Jul 2017 8:30 AM | Anonymous member (Administrator)
    In the News - Info for Firearm Owners: 
    News Update: Andrew Scheer has been selected as the new Conservative Party leader - see his ideas on gun legislation at the links below:

    NFA releases: 


    CSSA Information on the
    CPC Leadership Candidates
    Check it out at:

  • 24 Jun 2016 10:39 AM | Anonymous member (Administrator)

    This is info removed from LRGC home page on June 23 and placed here for reference.

    Gun Owner News! Read!
    The Liberals have been busy and are at it again.
    Yes - Bill S-223 has now been submitted - again!

    See CSSA posts in "What's in the News" section
    at bottom of page to read more on this - as the new Bill is even MORE restrictive to "sportsman" than the old one - and will do nothing to solve crime - sound familiar (C-68)!

    Read!  This is a Trojan Horse Bill!

    New update: The bill S-223 went to second reading on April 19 2016 - see link: 
     but appears to have
    not received a second to move the motion/bill ahead to third reading at this time
    (see second reading link near bottom on this parlimentary status page). Debate was closed - no further action defined - we will have to wait to see what the Liberals do with it next!?

  • 30 May 2016 10:37 AM | Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Past General Meeting Info: Thanks to all that attended!

    We learned a lot about what to do about illegal dumping and reporting at the: 

    LRGC General Meeting April 13 +
    Fraser Valley Illegal Dumping Alliance  Special Presentation
    A special thanks to Joe Daniels for his presentation - pdf download below!
    FVIDA Presentation.pdf
    Also visit the website:

  • 19 Apr 2016 8:26 AM | Anonymous member (Administrator)

    TEAM CSSA S-223 Update – April 18, 2016


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    GUNTER: Departing senator's bill looks to give restrictive gun registration





    Is Senate Private Bill S-223 a parting shot by a retiring Liberal senator or a trial balloon being launched by the Trudeau government to see whether there is any taste for a new gun registry?


    Hard to say. What is clear is that if S-223 ever became law, it would be even more restrictive than the 1995 long-gun registration bill, C-68.


    Introduced earlier this month by Quebec Liberal Senator Céline Hervieux-Payette, the bill may die when Hervieux-Payette retires from the Senate at the end of this week. The former Pierre Trudeau cabinet minister turns 75 - the mandatory Senate retirement age - on Friday.


    The bill also faces some significant procedural hurdles. For one, to get past first reading the bill requires both the Liberals and the Conservatives to speak to it. While the Liberals have scheduled their statements for as early as Tuesday, the Conservatives have no plans yet to address the bill. And since the Tories still hold the majority in the upper chamber, S-223 could languish on the order paper a long, long time.


    So maybe this is just Hervieux-Payette's last kick at the can; one more chance to make a clattering commotion on her way out the door.


    Hervieux-Payette, who was secretary of state for fitness and amateur sport back in the early '80s, has long been a fierce opponent of private gun ownership. She is also rabidly anti-American.


    A decade ago when an American tourist wrote Canadian senators to tell them she and her family would not be coming to Canada out of protest for the seal hunt, Hervieux-Payette told the woman "the daily massacre of innocent people in Iraq, the execution of prisoners - mainly blacks - in American prisons, the massive sale of handguns to Americans, and the destabilization of the entire world by the American government's aggressive foreign policy," was far worse than the seal hunt.


    But there is also some reason to think the bill is more than just the fading dream of a radically anti-gun senator.


    For one thing, it's more than 70 pages long and appears to be the work of several, professional lawyers and legislation drafters. Tony Bernardo, executive director of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association, says S-223 looks as if "it took a number of Department of Justice lawyers a few months of work to create."


    If Justice lawyers did help in the bill's creation, that would indication S-223 is a stalking horse - a false front the Trudeau government is hiding behind to gauge reaction and see whether they could get away with new gun controls.


    The key provisions include the reclassification of all firearms, except "hunting firearms" as "circumscribed firearms."


    Firearms in this new category - close to half of all firearms in the country - could not be stored in private homes. They would have to be kept locked up in government-approved vaults at authorized gun clubs or even police stations.


    And they could only be removed from these facilities by licensed "transporters." No word yet whether individual owners could get license to transport their own guns.


    And while guns would not have to be "registered," they would have to be "inscribed."


    Explaining the difference, Hervieux-Payette said, "We simply thought that using the term 'inscription' would eliminate some anxiety. I think that using the term inscription does not evoke feelings of fear" that a new registry is on the way.


    Let's hope when the good senator packs up her office this week, she packs up this dangerous bill along with her paperweight and letter opener.






    The CSSA is the voice of the sport shooter and firearms enthusiast in Canada. Our national membership supports and promotes Canada's firearms heritage, traditional target shooting competitions, modern action shooting sports, hunting, and archery. We support and sponsor youth programs and competitions that promote these Canadian heritage activities.


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  • 19 Apr 2016 8:20 AM | Anonymous member (Administrator)

    TEAM CSSA E-NEWS – April 16, 2016


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    She's baaaack. Just when you thought it was safe to go into the Senate of Canada, along comes Senator Céline Hervieux-Payette with the newest incarnation of her Draconian anti-gun bill, now called Bill S-223.


    This is the latest of several legislative introductions the honourable Senator has made to inflict a wicked piece of garbage on Canadians.


    The bill would change the "Restricted" category to "Circumscribed" (cutting off the flash hider of your AR-15?), prohibit all firearms except a VERY narrow range of hunting firearms and “localize” the prohibition of restricted firearms. In other words, that's centralized lock up of some of your guns and destruction of the rest.




    As well, no one would be allowed to move circumscribed (restricted/prohibited) guns except approved “Transporters.” Of course, these would be made up of highly trained, untouchable and steely-eyed folks – like Canada Post, but even better.


    Guns would not be “registered” but “inscribed.” Says the good Senator: “You can appreciate that the terms ‘registration’ and ‘registered’ have been used so often that we simply thought that using the term ‘inscription’ would eliminate some anxiety. I think that using the term inscription does not evoke feelings of fear”"


    Yes, it's true, she really does think you are that stupid.


    Seemingly, she also thinks the media and the rest of Canadians are stupid enough to be fooled by this childish attempt at deceit.


    The Senator also states: “The firearm death rate in the United States, a country with very weak gun control laws, was 10.3 per 100,000 population in 2011. That amounts to 32,163 deaths in one year, according to the National Vital Statistic Reports from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. That would be the number of deaths if 20 towers, like those of the World Trade Center, were to collapse every year in the United States. There were 2,977 victims on September 11, 2001.”


    Apparently she failed arithmetic too.


    Twenty World Trade Center tragedies would total 59,540, not 32,163. She also quotes the U.S. example as proof that Canada is different because of our gun control while failing to recognize that as the numbers of U.S. firearms goes up, violent crime with firearms goes down. Apparently the Senator's facts only go in one direction and her prowess in deciphering and analyzing social trends and dangers is only dwarfed by her considerable mathematics skills.


    As the last pail of stupid gets thrown into the tub, all restricted/prohibited would be forbidden to transfer.


    There's a lot more too. Some 76 pages of legalese gobbledygook to decipher, but we are on it!


    The bill cannot receive second reading until the Liberals and the Conservatives speak to the bill. The Liberals are set to speak on April 19 and the Conservative are TBA, but we are watching this closely. Bill S-223 has had a HUGE amount of work put into its creation. It took a number of Department of Justice lawyers a few months of work to create this one – and that is very concerning.


    We will be listening to the Liberal's statement on the bill, anxious to hear if their promise to not create a gun registry meant that it was okay to create an “inscription registry.” If this bill passes second reading, we go to war!


    Stay tuned, polish your armour and sharpen your swords.


  • 13 Apr 2016 2:39 PM | Anonymous member (Administrator)

    FW: Safe City Project underway in Surrey


     Subject: FW: Safe City Project underway in Surrey

    All info seen from police in the past indicated most weapons used in crimes are smuggled in from USA. Now it seems Bill Fordy has come up with a new statement. I know guys like you will have everything up to date but some people do not and will be shocked when police drop in and seize their weapons.

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    Safe City Project underway in Surrey

    Release Date: April 11, 2016

    Surrey RCMP is undertaking a project dubbed as “Safe City”, which aims to educate firearms owners on current laws surrounding the registration requirements for restricted and prohibited firearms.

    Police officers from the Surrey RCMP, supported by the National Weapon Enforcement Support Team (NWEST) and Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit (CFSEU – BC) have been and will be visiting the owners of restricted and prohibited firearms whose registrations have expired.

    The proactive undertaking was developed prior to the recent shootings that have occured in Surrey.

    “The objective of this project is to educate firearms owners on the current laws surrounding firearms, as some may not even realize that they are non-compliant,” said Assistant Commissioner Bill Fordy, the Officer in Charge of Surrey RCMP. “We are running this program to help gun owners with registering their expired, prohibited, and restricted firearms, or help facilitate relinquishment of unwanted firearms safely and effectively to police. Our aim is to reduce the number of illegally owned and unregistered firearms in Surrey, as well as enhance public and police officer safety.  The majority of gun related crimes in Canada are committed with guns that are domestically sourced.”

    Ridge-Meadows RCMP also successfully launched the program in November 2015 and announced their result after it is was done (see news release).

    If you have any unwanted firearms, please contact your local police department on their non-emergency line. Police will go to your residence to receive the firearms. For security reasons, please do not transport the firearms into police departments.

    For information on licensing, registration and general safekeeping of firearms, please visit the RCMP’s Canadian Firearms Program (CFP) website at

    Surrey RCMP commit to providing an update on the Safe City Project upon completion.



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  • 13 Apr 2016 2:24 PM | Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Take a look at what the Liberals are up to - and be prepared to fight the obvious ignorance of the facts and detachment from reality. Clearly these people are not playing with a full deck?!

  • 15 Sep 2015 6:15 PM | Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Subject: Team CSSA E-NEWS – September 11, 2015

    (Staff | Calibre Magazine | September 2, 2015)


    As of today, two of C-42’s most-anticipated components come into effect: The transition of POLs (Possession Only Licenses) to PALs (Possession and Acquisition Licenses) and the inclusion of the “Automatic Authorization to Transport” on RPAL licenses. While outlined in the text of C-42, both of these matters have been the subject of much debate, as the exact manner in which they will be released has been anything but clear… but as of today, the RCMP Canadian Firearms Program has finally issued a document outlining the process by which these changes will (and did) occur.

    In the matter of the POL to PAL transition, it’s as simple as expected; if you possess a valid POL you now possess a valid PAL. There is no need to replace your card. You POL number is quite simply no registered as a PAL number in the firearms centre’s database so you may immediately proceed to your local gun shop and buy a new gun right now if you so desire. Obviously, when you renew your license, the newly-issued card will be labelled as a PAL but again that is not necessary until your card expires. If your POL has expired already, you must take the CFSC or CRFSC to obtain a PAL.

    The matter of Automatic ATTs is a bit more nebulous. Basically, if you currently have an ATT to transport a firearm to a range or gun club, the following conditions have been automatically applied to your license:


    • ·        These license conditions authorize the transport of restricted and/or prohibited firearms registered to the license holder within their province of residence by the most direct route possible for the specific indicated purposes.
    • ·        Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited handguns (12(6.1) of the Firearms Act) possessed for the purpose of target practice to and from all shooting clubs and ranges approved under section 29 of the  Firearms Act.
    • ·        Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms to and from any place a peace officer, firearms officer of Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) is located for verification, registration or disposal in accordance with the Firearms Act or Part III of the Criminal Code.
    • ·        Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms to and from a business that holds a license authorizing it to repair or appraise prohibited or restricted firearms.
    • ·        Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms to and from a gun show.
    • ·        Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms to a port of exit, in order to take them outside Canada and from a port of entry.
    • ·        Transportation of newly acquired restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms from the place of acquisition to the license holder’s dwelling house or other place authorized by the CFO.

    If you do not currently hold an ATT for the purposes of taking a firearm to the range, the above conditions have not been automatically applied to your license, but will be applied when you:

    • acquire your first restricted firearm;
    • acquire additional restricted or prohibited firearms;
    • request a new ATT during valid period of license;
    • request a replacement ATT during valid period of license; or,
    • renew your firearms license with restricted and/or prohibited privileges.

    When any one of those above events occurs, the automatic ATT conditions will be applied to your license, and a new license card will be printed to reflect that special conditions are attached to the license. The card carrier (paper that accompanies the license) issued with the new license will have the usual standard conditions listed, while the new six automatic ATT conditions will be listed under “Special Conditions” on the carrier. Whether or not this carrier must be carried with the license remains unclear as two separate calls to the Canadian Firearms Centre for clarification obtained two different responses; one which claimed the Special Conditions must be carried and one which claimed the carrier should be carried but was not legally necessary as the conditions are applied to the license regardless of if you physically possess the paper saying so and that confirmation of the conditions is available to any law enforcement officer electronically.

    It should be noted as well that if the reason given for acquiring a new firearm is for the purposes of collecting firearms, only five automatic ATT conditions will be attached to your license, with the exclusion of the first condition. In other words if you have no ATT, and buy a new restricted or prohibited firearm for the purposes of collecting firearms, you will not get an automatic ATT allowing you take restricted/prohibited firearms to the range.

    Holders of existing ATTs will not automatically receive a new card reflecting the new conditions that have been attached to their license (just as existing POL holders will not receive a card reflecting their new status as PAL holders), but the Canadian Firearms Centre’s database will reflect the changes in conditions for all RPAL holders that meet the criteria; namely those with pre-existing ATTs, and those that complete any of the above steps. Also, while the new conditions will have been applied to any existing ATT holders, the existing ATT remains valid. In a call to the Canadian Firearms Centre, we were told that for this reason it would be prudent to retain any existing ATTs with the restricted firearms they pertain to as they remain valid documents, but the Firearms Centre was also unanimous in saying that travelling to the range with restricted firearms but without our existing ATT (or any new license carrier declaring the new Special Conditions) this morning would be legal due to the new conditions placed upon our licenses.


    For the full document from the RCMP go here:

    See the story:

  • 08 Mar 2014 5:14 PM | Anonymous member (Administrator)
    This issue should be of concern to all Canadian firearms owners!

    At the end of February, the RCMP firearms lab quietly reclassified two firearms.

    The “Swiss Arms” brand of rifles and some versions of the CZ 858 rifle (both
    semi-autos) have been moved from the non-restricted category to the
    "prohibited" category, effectively making some 15,000 Canadian gun owners
    "criminals" by possessing a firearm they now don't have the appropriate
    license for.

    These rifles were initially inspected by the RCMP firearms lab and approved
    for sale as non-restricted in Canada a dozen years ago.

    There have been no documented cases of either of these firearms being used
    in a crime or of one ever being converted from “semi” to “full auto”, which
    of course would be a crime.

    This action appears to be a “gun grab” rather than a “public safety” issue,
    initiated by the unelected bureaucrats at the RCMP who seem to be making up
    laws without any political over-site or consultation…most likely to “test
    the waters” before moving forward with a much broader and far reaching list
    of firearms prohibitions, mostly aimed at semi auto rifles (for now).

    Since the last 3 days in February when these prohibitions were revealed
    there has been a massive response from Canadian gun owners and firearms
    organizations (NFA and CSSA) indicating their extreme displeasure and
    concerns over these prohibitions and the actions of the RCMP.

    The Federal government has acted quickly, announcing a 5 year “amnesty” for
    all owners of these now “prohibited” firearms. Whether this means the owners
    get to continue using them as “non-restricted” rifles, or that they become
    expensive paper-weights that cannot leave the house (Swiss Arms rifles cost
    around $3500) is yet to be determined.

    If the government eventually decides on a “buy back” program for these
    rifles, the Canadian taxpayer would be on the hook for over 15 million

    Here is the “good news”…Canadian gun owners (for the time being) are front
    and center in the concerns of the current government…an election is
    coming…the time to act is now.

    Meaningful changes to the Canadian Firearms Act are possible if enough
    concerned citizens are heard…changes that punish criminals rather than law
    abiding firearms owners.

    Whether you own a semi-automatic rifle or not, the time to act for “common
    sense” firearms laws in Canada has never been better.

    There are countless articles etc available online if you’re interested in
    researching this issue further.

  • 08 Mar 2014 5:07 PM | Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Last week, without Parliamentary input, the RCMP unilaterally reclassified two types of rifles. All Swiss Arms and most models of the CZ858 are now prohibited. This affects approximately 12,000 members in the firearms community and represents anywhere between 10 and 15 million dollars of private property.

    If you are not familiar with the issue, please take a quick read of the briefing below:


    For more in-depth discussion, pending legal actions and writing resources:


    We urge you to act on this immediately. Please contact your Member of Parliament, the Minister of Public Safety, the Minister of Justice and the Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper. Tell them the reclassification by the RCMP is unacceptable. The current Firearms Act is biased against responsible Canadian Sportsmen and should be replaced.

    Source: Canadiangunnutz
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