Langley Rod and Gun Club
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A brief discussion of current Firearms related issues!
  • 12 Dec 2012 9:53 AM | Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Don has had a lengthy stay in hospitals due to his lung ailment and was constantly on a breathing apparatus. For those in the club that knew Don, and wish to attend his funeral, it will be held this coming Saturday, Dec. 15, from 11am to 2pm at the Northside Community Church @ 33507 Dewdney Trunk Rd., Mission, B.C. If you wish or require any further info regarding the event, please phone Karen Robinson, 604-540-6394
  • 07 Oct 2012 9:37 AM | Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Fall Hunters' Special
    Oct. 3rd, 2012

    Anyone who thinks the gun control debate in Canada is over is wrong by a long shot!
    With the ink barely dry on our Conservative government’s legislation to scrap the long-gun registry, our opponents in Parliament and their friends have been clogging the courts with nuisance legal action. I am pleased to provide this update about where things stand on a number of issues you told me were of concern.

    First, the Good News
    The nuisance law suit by the Barbra Schlifer Commemorative Clinic in Toronto for an emergency injunction to prevent the destruction of data from the federal long-gun registry in Ontario failed. The Ontario Superior Court called the appeal by the Toronto women's shelter "weak" and dismissed it.

    Justice D.M. Brown refused to place an injunction on the Federal Government's decision to destroy the information still being held in a computer database in Ottawa. The files include the names, addresses, phone numbers and registry numbers of all long-gun owners in Canada, dating back almost 20 years.

    More Good News for Hunters
    Unlike the Chretien government, which used the United Nations (UN) as an excuse to legislate more and more restrictions on Canadians, particularly when it came to property rights, and your right to enjoy your own personal, private property, our Government has worked hard to protect the rights of all Canadians. Based on your past experience, many worried firearms owners expressed concern about the most recent Arms Trade Treaty Negotiations at the UN, and whether the negotiations could be another back-door attempt to bring back the liberal long-gun registry. I am pleased to share Canada’s position and what it means to you.

    1) The Review Conference on the UN's Programme of Action (PoA) on illicit trafficking in small arms and light weapons was adopted by consensus. This is what it means to lawful firearms owners/vendors in Canada:

    • The Programme of Action (PoA) on Small Arms and Light Weapons (SALWs) is a UN-led set of voluntary measures to promote international cooperation to curtail the illicit global trafficking in SALWs.
    • Canada and its law enforcement agencies, including the RCMP, cooperate fully with international partners, including Interpol, in global efforts to curtail the illicit trafficking in SALWs that fuel international crime and terrorism.
    • Canada's involvement with the PoA is carried out in a manner consistent with all of its domestic laws, policies and regulations.
    • The PoA does not affect in any way the ability of Canadian firearms owners to possess firearms legally in a manner consistent with Canadian laws.

    2) The outcome of the ATT conference that was held earlier in the summer & what that means for lawful firearms owners/vendors in Canada:

    • The ATT is not intended to deal with arms transfers within national borders, nor would it regulate domestic gun ownership.
    • Canada believes that the goal of creating an instrument to impede the illicit flow of arms to criminals, terrorists and human rights abusers is an important one.
    • Canada stresses the importance of the principle of national discretion and that the ATT should recognize the legitimacy of lawful ownership of firearms by responsible citizens for their personal and recreational use, including sport shooting, hunting and collecting.
    • We stress that this should in no way result in any new burdens being placed on lawful firearms owners in Canada.

    There you have it!

    Now, other News
    The Quebec Superior Court recently upheld that province's injunction, saying the destruction of the data violated the Constitution and the spirit of federalism. The federal government will appeal the Quebec Superior Court decision.
    While the Quebec legal case only applies to Quebec residents, the NDP leader of the official opposition in Ottawa, pandering to his Quebec base, has publically vowed "I will work to register firearms.” With the majority of the MPs of his party from Quebec, expect him to kowtow to their every demand. Quebec has elected a very hostile separatist provincial government. Its first antagonistic act was to remove the Flag of Canada from its legislative chamber when its members were sworn in. This fight is not over!
    Now it is your turn. Let me know if we are on the right track by taking a quick poll at

    Please be assured that as your representative in Ottawa, I will oppose any attempt to bring back the long-gun registry.

    Cheryl Gallant, M.P.

  • 05 Oct 2012 9:47 PM | Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Guys, Wendy may not be able to stand her ground on an open forum on the internet, but she and her supporters have found a niche over on Twitter, which, in case you have been hiding under a rock, is a "microblogging" service where you can post "Tweets" with a maximum length of 140 characters, and "ReTweet" Tweets that you like. You can do searches for "hashtags", i.e. words that are preceded by a #. The one everybody is using for the C-19 debate is #gunregistry.

    Wendy's on there as @CGCguncontrol. Right now she and her followers are spreading this morning's TorStar scare piece far and wide.

    Setting up an account is dirt easy and takes a couple of minutes, and composing Tweets is even easier.

    You can also "follow" people, which, if you follow a bunch of pro-gun Twitterers, gives you plenty of Tweets to reTweet, upping the volume on our signal.

    CGNers out there to follow and ReTweet include


    People, please take a few minutes of time, get a Twitter account, and check it occasionally during the run-up to the registry's demise. Fire off a few pro-gun, pro-C-19, anti-anti-BS Tweets, and ReTweet the good ones to pump up the volume. It's easy, and will help us counter Wendy's lies in a popular part of the internet.

    C/O Canadiangunnutz
  • 25 Sep 2012 11:14 AM | Anonymous
    OTTAWA Canada’s public safety minister is applauding an Ontario Superior Court’s rejection of a bid to preserve long gun-registry data.

    Vic Toews called the ruling an “absolute victory for the rule of law.”

    The Toronto court had heard a motion from the Barbra Schlifer Commemorative Clinic for an emergency injunction that would have prevented the federal government from destroying long-gun data in a federal registry that’s been abolished.

    Justice D.M. Brown declined to grant the injunction, rejecting arguments that the destruction would be a violation of the Charter of Rights.

    The City of Toronto had supported the motion, though the province did not.

    The ruling follows a successful court application by the Quebec government to preserve long-gun registry data in that province.

    Last week, Superior Court Judge Marc-Andre Blanchard voided two sections of the Conservative government’s legislation to scrap the long-gun registry.

    The judge ordered Ottawa to surrender all records on Quebec-owned rifles and shotguns in the registry to the province within 30 days.

    Minister of State Maxime Bernier told the House of Commons on Monday the government will appeal the Quebec court decision.

    The Conservative government has said that any province wanting its own long-gun registry is welcome to create one from scratch.

    “We were very pleased that the Ontario Superior Court has ruled in favour of law-abiding hunters, farmers and sport shooters,” Toews said in a statement Friday.

    “The will of Parliament and Canadians has been clear. We do not want any form of a wasteful and ineffective long-gun registry.”

    An outspoken proponent of the registry said the fight will continue.

    “This decision is a setback but we will continue to fight for sensible controls on rifles and shotguns,” Wendy Cukier of the Coalition for Gun Control said in a statement.

    “Information about who owns what guns is essential to reducing the diversion of guns to illegal markets and the registry has been shown to be useful in solving crimes.”
  • 18 Sep 2012 3:57 PM | Anonymous
    The Harper government will appeal the judgment of the Superior Court which gives Quebec the right to get the data from the national registry of gun that was abolished last spring.

    The announcement was made Monday by Conservative cabinet minister Maxime Bernier.

    In a judgment of 42 pages made ​​on September 11, Judge Marc-André Blanchard of Quebec Superior Court declared inoperative Article 29 of the Act to abolish the gun registry, which ordered the destruction of all data that have been collected over time.

    Ottawa must send the data to the Government of Quebec, told the magistrate.

    Justice Blanchard said in its judgment that the registry could not be implemented without the cooperation of the provinces and Ottawa a "lack of respect for the jurisdiction of Quebec" by ordering the destruction of data on citizens province.

    C/O Radio Canada 2012/09/17
  • 31 Aug 2012 5:26 PM | Anonymous
    Canadians shuffled 3844 firearms since August 30, 2012.
    C/O CSSA
  • 30 Aug 2012 2:56 PM | Anonymous

    1)   Please note that our caretaker Ray Mulholland is retiring and we will be making a transition to a new caretaker over the next two months.   As a result:

    ·       A special event to honour Ray is planned at the club office on Friday August 31, 2012 at 2 pm – come join us for some cake and refreshments! (if you would like to contribute to a gift for Ray, please pass along to a range officer or LRGC Board member). 

    ·       The club office and shotgun shooting hours are being revised beginning September 1st and will be in effect until our new caretaker begins.


    Sunday – (11:00 am – 4:00 pm)

    Monday - Closed.

    Tuesday - Closed.

    Wednesday - (11:30 am – 4:00 pm)

    Thursday - Closed.

    Friday - (11:30 am- 4:00 pm)

    Saturday - (11:00 am – 4:00 pm)

     Note that scheduled skeet shooting (starting at noon) will not be affected on Wednesday and Friday afternoons, and that typical activities outside of these hours will not be affected (jr & sr rifle, handgun, fast draw, etc.)  

     2)   Note that the Sporting Clays/5-Stand Grand Re-Opening will be on Friday Sept 7, starting at 2:15 pm.  Come and give it a try as it is a lot of fun! If you have never tried this – it is sort of a combination of skeet and trap shooting all rolled into one – see the “New Member’s Column” of the May LRGC Newsletter (on the LRGC website ) for a more detailed description of this activity!

    3)   Note that the Family Fun Day Open House event is scheduled for Sept 9, 2012 from 10 am – 3 pm. Come out and try many of the shooting activities at the LRGC and enjoy a lunch – all free!
    If you know of someone thinking about getting involved in shooting – bring them along! (If you would like to volunteer to assist in this event – please email – we could use your help!).

    4)   There are many LRGC Trophy matches (trap, skeet, rifle, pistol) coming up in the next few months (Sept – Dec) so please check the latest LRGC newsletter “Calendar-at-a-glance” for these upcoming dates and times.  All LRGC members are welcome - no matter what your skill level!

    5)   HELP!  Our Junior 22 Rifle Shooters need your help!

     Do you have a 22 cal. rifle in your safe you no longer use?
      Would you be willing to donate it to the LRGC?”  

    We are currently in need of 22 cal rifles for our junior program, especially “junior-sized”, good to excellent condition 22 cal target rifles to be utilized by our smaller junior shooters.  A “junior-sized” rifle is “lighter” rifle (around 5-6 lbs.) and/or has a shorter (or adjustable) rear stock to reduce “length-of-pull” (LOP) – i.e. the distance required to reach the trigger.  The preferred target rifle types are a Anschutz/CIL 180 Junior target rifle or an Anschultz/Marlin 2000 Jr. Model, or any other similar “junior-sized” rifles.  These are not easy to find, so if you have or know of any available junior-sized rifles, please advise us ASAP with needed contact information.

    Note however that we would be pleased to receive ANY 22 rifle donations made to the club – either junior or standard size, as these can be employed in some of our new member training and out-reach programs currently being developed.  


    You may contact me at or LRGC phone (leave a message for Doug R. or leave contact info with the caretaker) for assessment and/or to arrange pick-up, or you may drop the rifle off at the LRGC during office hours with a note containing your contact information and indicating that it is being donated to the LRGC.  

    Thanking you in advance for your support!    

  • 30 Aug 2012 9:07 AM | Anonymous
    From Caperaway on Gunnutz

    I noticed the RCMP updated their fact sheet for target shooters to say that "A copy of the valid shooting club membership must be provided as well." in order to obtain an ATT.
    I guess day passes are no good anymore.

    Some other interesting quotes:

    "For the purposes of the issuance of a long-term ATT for target practice, CFO’s generally require that the ATT applicant has a “full” club membership (i.e., has met the terms and conditions of the probationary membership and has been issued a subsequent “full” club or range membership)."

    "Further, the CFO has the authority under subsection 15(1) of the Shooting Clubs and Shooting Ranges Regulations to request written confirmation from a shooting club or range of “…the participation, if any, of a current or past member…of the shooting club…in target practice or target shooting competitions within the previous five years… .”
  • 30 Aug 2012 8:50 AM | Anonymous


    For immediate release - August 30, 2012

    Great Canadian Gun Registry Shuffle proves firearms data is useless
    Firearms owners exchange guns in national protest and vow to never register again

    (TORONTO – August 30, 2012) The members of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association (CSSA) are mad as hell and they're not going to take this any more.

    The CSSA is advocating that all owners of registered non-restricted firearms take part in the Great Canadian Gun Registry Shuffle. The CSSA says anti-gun advocates are spitting in the face of Canada's legal system by deliberately ignoring the will of Parliament in an attempt to preserve registry data for future use.

    In order to support federal Bill C-19 that specifies the data must be deleted, responsible gun owners are swapping their firearms to illustrate that the data was -- and will always be -- useless. The Great Canadian Gun Registry Shuffle removes any wrong-headed notion that the data could help build subsequent registries.

    Bill C-19 received Royal Assent on April 5 and clearly dictates that the data must be destroyed. In contempt for the new law, the Government of Quebec, the City of Toronto, the Barbra Schlifer Commemorative Clinic, and the Region of Waterloo have asked the courts to preserve the data and ignore Parliament. The CSSA is mobilizing trustworthy Canadian gun owners to immediately buy, sell, trade or lend previously registered firearms to protest the data preservation injunctions.

    “The governments and advocacy groups have forced our hand by suggesting the registry data is somehow useful, ” says Tony Bernardo, CSSA spokesman and executive director of the Canadian Institute for Legislative Action (CILA). “If they refuse to acknowledge the will of the people, we'll do it for them. Canada's previously registered firearms are now changing location, so the registry is even more useless, if that's possible. The registry was never a public safety tool, and we're removing once and for all the myth that the data was valuable. The Great Canadian Gun Registry Shuffle negates the silly straw man attempt to protect the data. Shuffling previously registered firearms is totally legal, responsible and appropriate.

    “The Schlifer Clinic is funded by four Ontario government ministries, so it appears the provincial Liberals are hiding behind this anti-gun ploy,” he adds. “More than half of the firearms in Canada have never been registered and even anti-gun advocates admit that criminals won't register their guns. As long as these nuisance court injunctions keep the registry data intact, they are maintaining a shopping list for computer hacking criminals to locate our firearms. That places gun owners in danger, so we are compelled to demonstrate that the registry is inaccurate by making it even less accurate. Pro-registry advocates need to see that there's no useable data to protect. We are simply showing them the folly of their own political posturing. The registry is dead.”

    CSSA/CILA has provided a great deal of statistical evidence over the years to prove that a gun registry does nothing to keep Canadians safe and does not curtail violence against women.

    “Sticking a registry paper on a gun doesn't make it safe,” says Bernardo. “The registry was created as a political pacifier strictly to win votes and some politically motivated groups are still willing to play that game today. Sport shooters are fed up and we're putting an end to it. The law permits us to exchange our firearms with other qualified gun owners. By this time tomorrow, no one will know which owners have which firearms. And that's perfect, because it's nobody's business.

    “This shuffle forces the obstinate anti-gun crowd to admit that the registry is not worth fighting for,” he adds. “It truly never was. The data is corrupt and outdated, and it never saved a single life. It was never designed to make us safe. We have challenged anti-gun advocates to reveal how the registry can help anyone, and they have never delivered – not once. How could they? The registry doesn't do anything. The Great Canadian Gun Registry Shuffle makes the data transparently irrelevant. Perhaps now we can all get on with focusing on bona fide ways to increase public safety and protect Canadians against violence. We will do all we can to help.”

    TO ALL LONG GUN OWNERS: Please let us know how many long guns you have shuffled. Do not tell us the type, location etc., just the number. Every Thursday morning we will post the totals on the CSSA web site. Enjoy the Shuffle.

    For more information contact:
    Tony Bernardo at 905-571-2150 or email

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